Suggestions to LPI

Stacy Gildenston stacy at
Sun Jun 29 23:11:01 EDT 2003


I've worked in 'pure play' IT services companies where certifications 
were everything, but training/cert $$ was not particularly forthcoming.  
This was true even at the peak of the market.  I grok your points.

Just recently (last few months) I've noticed in the IT cert media that 
there's a trend to look at non-IT certifications (think medical, for 
example) and why they stand the test of time.  Fortunately for us, we've 
*really* done the right thing...using what I'd call old school 
methodologies right in line with the medical professions.  And because 
of this, we've been able to become involved with standards bodies that 
only accept programs such as our own.

But not everyone gets it.  Novell, who originally lead the original 
charge to IT certification more than a decade ago, let go of almost 
their entire cert staff right after they went live with their new Linux 
cert.  One day they became our sponsor, almost the next, they are going 
through major internal changes related to the value of their own cert 
program.  We're still not sure where they stand.  And it is frustrating 
for us as well.

I absolutely know that the concept of vendor independent (as we 
currently call it), professional certifications are still completely new 
to a lot of people.  And sometimes, so is Linux.  And so, you're all 
correct... there's a lot of education to be done...and we hope, 
primarily with your help.  I hope we have a lot of loud mouths out there.

I also might mention that we are trying to form better alumni services.  
I would be happy to elicit commentary from here on a different 
thread...what would you like from us as Alumni?


Bryan J. Smith wrote:

>On Sun, 2003-06-29 at 21:51, Stacy Gildenston wrote:
>>I'd like to ask a question.  We're putting together a one pager that 
>>could be used for employees or even potential employees who need to 
>>educate "higher ups" on why LPI is a great choice.  What I'd really like 
>>to know is what sorts of things do you say to managers/HR people when 
>>you are trying to get LPI certification recognition (whether it be 
>>payment for it, or just recognition of it, whatever).  Where are their 
>>minds at?
>>Thanks for your time on this.  This discussion has generated a lot of 
>>good thought, and I appreciate being able to talk with others on this 
>>end about it.
>My opinions are skewed because _none_ of my employers have offered to
>pay for _anything_.  I've spent over $5K in the past 12 months in just
>exam fees.  At the same time, my current employer is marketing my
>certifications to clients, which has put me in a "professional pickle." 
>One that I fear may come to a "head" in the very near future over some
>sticky "logo usage" on their part (long story ;-).
>In a nutshell, I never force the issue.  With companies on tight
>budgets, most are cutting training.  So if all they are going to pay for
>is the exam fees and my time, I'd much rather have them pay me nothing
>so I owe them nothing.  God knows I've seen far too many people, in the
>past, obtain certifications at a company, on company dollars, only to
>see the company try to claim the certification -- with a few people
>forgetting they signed such an agreement to either reimburse and/or let
>the company hold the title (however the latter actually works).
>Some people are just not going to get the value of anything.  And in
>some cases, e.g., people that don't value IT certifications at all, you
>can't do much.  That has been my problem largely.  The only time I think
>people should want to see the corporate agenda change is when
>non-Microsoft certifications are not respected as much.  And I have had
>great success in those regards when given the ear to present.

Stacy Gildenston
Director of Business Development
Linux Professional Institute
stacy at
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