LPI-DE stops working

[Chuck Mead]

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On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Chuck Mead posted the following:

CM>LPI, Inc. has already begun putting together a new organization which
CM>will, hopefully, become the LPI-DE affiliate. The mailing list is being
CM>reformed to suit the needs of that group. So far as the accusation of
CM>censorship goes Peer's message is here, uncensored. He can say what he
CM>likes.

The more I think about this the more irritated I get. Peer's first act
after he was elected chair of his group at Cebit was to move the group
over to being a strictly German effort, not an LPI-EU effort (and this
was done with a representative from Mandrake and some Italians in the
room and actively dissenting). Even the subject of his email says LPI-DE
not LPI-EU. The lpi-euwg was intended to be a pan-european effort (LPI
European Union Working Group). Through Peer's own efforts it was never
that. When I took the list down it was with the intent that we would
surely be reorganizing (and we are) our efforts in Europe. I did not
remove the list archives and the last message to the list may be seen
here:

http://lpi.org/pipermail/lpi-euwg/2002-July/000090.html

The entirety of the archives for July may be seen here:

http://lpi.org/pipermail/lpi-euwg/2002-July/thread.html

Note that there is one (1) message there and it is a German translation
of the LPI News from June translated and sent by Torsten Scheck, an
unpaid LPI staff member and one of our most loyal volunteers. We back up
into the June archives and we see 3 messages. 1 from Torsten:

http://lpi.org/pipermail/lpi-euwg/2002-June/000087.html

one from Oliver Nickels (an IBMer who has been a good friend to LPI)
where he is speaking in direct response to Wilma Silberman who is an LPI
employee and was planning a trip to Austria to offer LPI tests at a
trade show:

http://lpi.org/pipermail/lpi-euwg/2002-June/000088.html

and one from Wilma:

http://lpi.org/pipermail/lpi-euwg/2002-June/000089.html

If we back up into May we see there are 5 messages:

2 from Torsten, 2 from Wilma, and one from Alexander Lang.

You have to go all the way back into April to see any activity of
significance when there was about 60K worth of traffic. Specifically,
the last time that Peer Heinlein sent a message to the lpi-euwg list was
the 24th of April:

http://lpi.org/pipermail/lpi-euwg/2002-April/000074.html

wherein he is explaining why he had been absent from the list for two
weeks and then he never sent another email to the list again and that
was the last of a grand total of 6 posts that he EVER sent to the list.
In the same month Torsten sent 20 posts to the list and Martin Krafft
sent 19.

So now this person who is the elected chair of a failed attempt at
creating an afilliate organization is accusing ME of censorship after
posting a total of 6 times to a list and the last of those was over 4
months ago! If so much public work and effort has gone on where are the
archives? I suspect that you created your own mailing list and conducted
your dicussions there or you did it via private email. You certainly did
not have any public discussions that I ever saw and now you have the
gall to accuse me of censorship?

Bah... you censored yourself Peer!

In the interest of full disclosure I also want to make clear what it is
that Peer and his LPI-DE group have said no to but I will do that in a
separate thread. I think the "censorship" accusation deserves one of its
own.

- -- 
Chuck Mead, President, LPI, Inc.
csm at lpi.org
http://www.lpi.org
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