[lpi-discuss]Question about the test?

[ross brunson]

Yeah, that is the one by Jeffrey Dean I mentioned in a previous post.

Everyone should take care to look at the objectives along with the book,
it's written to the old exam.  (Not a fault, they changed after the
publish date, every publisher and author's nightmare 8-P).  

If a candidate is studying for the exams and doesn't know how much
they've changed because they've not looked closely at the objectives,
that poor candidate is in for a really nasty surprise on exam day.

There are at least three new objectives and topics that can cause them
not to pass if they've not studied them:
- ntp
- ssh
- usb

Like I said, that book is a great resource, but you almost have to do a
map of the current objectives to the old chapters to not get a
migraine.  

Shouldn't take a person long to make a old -> new chapter to objective
spreadsheet to help studying, hmm????

Ross

On Mon, 2004-04-05 at 23:03, Freddy Hurkmans wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> 
> I have an O'Reilly book here that's called: "LPI Linux certification in 
> a nutshell". I find the book very good and very usefull!
> 
> Details:
> ISBN: 1-56592-748-6
> US $39.95
> CAN $59.95
> 
> Good luck with your study!
> Freddy Hurkmans
> 
> 
> Mike Partyka wrote:
> 
> > Ack! Now i am not so sure i am ready.
> > 
> > That's very dissapointing to hear that the Linux+ and LPI are not very close
> > to one another. Novell did some LPI prep training and that's what i was
> > going through to prepare. In their presentation they reference pages in the
> > book to look for more detail.
> > 
> > If the objectives are so far disparate i wonder why they would use the
> > Linux+ book?
> > 
> > Could you recommend a book to take a look at that is only for LPI
> > objectives? I looked on LPI.org and referenced some of the books they listed
> > there on amazon to see what people were saying and none of the books seemed
> > to be particularly well received. I know your somewhat conflicted since you
> > do an lpi prep course. BTW, I tried to sell my company on it but the timing
> > was unfortunate because we are working on a major application roll-out and
> > they said they wanted that to be the focus and they would consider training
> > later. I just didn't want to wait so i started hitting the books.
> > 
> > I'd be happy to send you the Novell course i have been going through if you
> > wanted to take a look. Or send you the a ROM, it's about 80M. Might be
> > interesting for you to see all the materials out there that people can use.
> > 
> > Well thanks for the warning in any case. It's difficult to satisfy the
> > objectives of the test and yet become more proficient on the platform of
> > choice at work. In the end you have to learn three or more ways to do the
> > same thing on different distro's . . .<sighs> ahh well.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "ross brunson" <ross at brunson.org>
> > To: <lpi-discuss at lpi.org>
> > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 12:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: [lpi-discuss]Question about the test?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>On Mon, 2004-04-05 at 02:16, Mike Partyka wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hello,
> >>>
> >>>    Just thought i would say, i believe i am ready to take the LPI
> >>>level 1 and the level 2 shortly thereafter.
> >>>
> >>>I have been using some training i got off Usenet and a book that goes
> >>>along with it called "Linux+ In depth" by Jason W. Eckert and M. John
> >>>Schitka.
> >>
> >>Mike, not to be an, ahem, "unbeliever", but if you're studying a Linux+
> >>book to take LPIC Level 1 and soon thereafter Level 2, that Usenet study
> >>material better be pretty darned good!
> >>
> >>The objectives for Linux+ and LPIC Level 1 are not a very good
> >>crossmatch, there's plenty of material in LPIC 1 that's not an objective
> >>in Linux+, and Level 2 and Linux+ aren't even on the same PLANET!
> >>
> >>
> >>> I think it's probably one of the best books i have ever looked at for
> >>>really useful information in a very readable format. The only thing
> >>>that worries me is the book (and the CBT course) is based on RedHat
> >>>7.3. I have a vmware installation of that along with RedHat Enterprise
> >>>Linux 3 (At work we use at work RHEL 2.1 and 3 AS)
> >>
> >>I have done a _lot_ of training for the LPIC Level 1 and Red Hat 7.3 and
> >>the like are just fine, the exam was developed around that version and
> >>of Debian 2.2/3.0 also.  Kara has mentioned that any LSB-compliant
> >>distribution will work, but RHEL is way out of line with the exams, (and
> >>pretty much any other distribution, if you ask me...).
> >>
> >>
> >>>My concern is that my traingin material is dated, as there are some
> >>>pretty serious differences between 7.3 and RHEL, such as some of the
> >>>Xwindows files, and especially the printing information. 7.3 being
> >>>based on simply using the lpd and RHEL using CUPS. How current is the
> >>>LPI level 1 and 2. Should i focus on the 7.3 material?
> >>
> >>It's not that the exam is out of date, it's based on Linux as a whole,
> >>not Red Hat in a corner.  Studying using exclusively Red Hat will warp
> >>your brain and cause little fedora-sporting bob young's to dance in your
> >>peripheral vision.  Load up a version of Knoppix in that VMWare distro
> >>you have and get a second opinion on Linux from the masters.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Or has the test kept pretty up to date and i'll need to be able to
> >>>answer questions about CUPS?
> >>
> >>Read the Objectives, you'll see that only LPD-related objectives are
> >>there, and make sure to look at the permissions for the /etc/passwd and
> >>/etc/shadow files on both RH 7.3 and Debian...
> >>
> >>
> >>>Also, does anyone know of a source of good test prep questions?
> >>
> >>Good Luck, and check out the cramsession.com LPIC Level 1 forum for more
> >>tips and http://www.linuxtrainers.biz.
> >>
> >>Ross
> >>
> >>
> >>>Thanks, so much
> >>>
> >>>Mike Partyka
> >>>Stonepath Logistics
> >>>Minneapolis, MN
> >>>
> >>
> >>-- 
> >>
> >>Ross
> >>
> >>Ross Brunson
> >>LPIC1,SCSA,LCI,LCA,Inet+,Linux+
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> >>
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