[lpi-discuss]Red Hat Certified Engineer certification vs LPIC
Bryan J. Smith
b.j.smith at ieee.org
Tue Apr 6 18:00:57 EDT 2004
On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 15:33, Freddy Hurkmans wrote:
> Hi all,
> Today I read a story about a top 10 list concerning all kinds of
> certifications (see:
First off, the CertCities stories on Linux certification have been rather
_pitiful_. One article recommended the RHCE simply because it was "Red
Hat" and Red Hat was "the" vendor for Linux. Huh? I'm a _huge_ proponent
of Red Hat, but even I don't consider Red Hat to be "the" Linux for all.
It was rather _sad_ because it didn't even talk about the tests at all!
Secondly, that's just a "buzzword popularity" contest. Don't read much
into it, other than _maybe_ what _some_ employers are looking at.
> I noticed that the only Linux certification on the list is the Red Hat
> Certified Engineer certification.
The rather pitiful CompTIA Linux+ was on there awhile back. I don't
think CompTIA is going to revamp that test anytime soon -- just not
enough people taking it (for good reason).
> I have chosen to go studying for the LPI certifications, mainly because
> it is distribution independant.
Even as someone that runs pretty much 100% RHL, RHEL and Fedora, even *I*
see the value in LPI. Yeah, I got the RHCE too, but I went straight through
the LPIC-2 without hesitation.
> Can anybody inform me what the main differences between RHCE and LPIC
> are (other than the obvious Red Hat specific issues)?
RHCE (and RHCT) = Lab-based
RHCE is also built around Red Hat's training program which, despite the
fact that it is "vendor-centric," is of a Novell-level of training quality.
LPI uses psychometrics, which is valid in its own right. LPI is also
non-profit, so it's not about "pushing product" -- _unlike_ 90% of the
programs out there. At the same time, it's _not_ "entry-level" like
CompTIA, which is the only other, major non-profit entity.
Otherwise, read _my_ personal comparison of _all_3_ at the URL below.
[ Yes, I've taken _all_ the exams from CompTIA, LPI and Red Hat ]
On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 17:00, Crawford Rainwater wrote:
> The nutshell version is that the RHCE is between a LPIC-1 and LPIC-2 in ranking,
> closer to the LPIC-1 though (like 1/3 the way above the LPIC-1, in my honest
> opinion here to put a number on it).
I think some of us who have taken the RHCE since the revamp in January
of 2003 -- which makes it _much_more_difficult_ -- to pass might differ
with that statement. The passing rate has gone way down, with far more
people earning the RHCT "subset" than the "full" RHCE when taking the
For my $0.02 (NOTE: I need to update a few inacuracies about the LPI
program that Kara has informed me about):
The RHCE is _no_ easy feat -- especially in the post-January 2003
> The exam formats though are different since RedHat has their exams as "hands on"
> since the RHEL 3.0 version of the exams (they removed the written portions after
> the RH 9.0 version, which was back in ~November 2003) and takes about 5-6 hours
> total. Two main components which are trouble shooting and installation.
The written portion of the RHCE was rather useless. Now _that_ part
might have been LPIC-1 level (or not even), but I completely disagree
that the RHCE is "under" LPIC-2.
> The LPI exams are written or computer question based with shorter time
Bryan J. Smith, E.I. -- Engineer, Technologist, School Teacher
b.j.smith at ieee.org
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