[lpi-discuss] Re: General comments on LPI levels -- LPIC-1 will NEVER be Linux+ (so help me God)

[Bryan J. Smith]

"ross e. brunson" <ross at brunson.org> wrote:
> NO, you got it wrong, he's not saying to have the Level 1
> be at the Linux+ Level, he's proposing we get off our dead
> asses and get a replacement for Linux+ at the LPIC 0 level.

Okay then, that didn't come off very clearly.

> Notice he suggested that Level 1 and Level 2 be merged 
> into a single level, add a Level 0 and then move Level 
> 3 down to a full-featured Level 2.

But at what level?  It wasn't clear that he was saying
LPIC-1.

> See previous doh-slap.

Here's their _full_ post:  
http://list.lpi.org/pipermail/lpi-discuss/2005-September/001998.html

Again, I'm not seeing any clarity on it being Level 0.

> And it's going along as such a fast pace...  We've not
> gotten enough people into Level 2 yet, much less having
> a sky-high Level 3 to someday achieve.

And this would change by merely renaming it LPIC-2?

> So, we suck less is the essential message?  We have our
> challenges, like being recognizable outside of the people
> who breathe server exhaust for a living.

I think that has more to do with the "purity" LPI's fiscal
considerations than anything.  The key is to get out there
and market, peer-to-peer.

That's what I do.

> I always remember the voice bump for the radio station in
> Chicago I heard long ago "Of all the radio stations in
> Chicago, we're.... one of them."

> Funny, I always have talked about the certs as being LPIC 1
> = 12months and Lpic 2 = 24months.

Whatever, 12 or 18, 24 or 36, it's still _not_ 6-months like
the Linux+.

> Don't get me started on the CBT vs Practicum-based exams
> for this area of certification.  Nothing says "I can do it"
> like actually having to DO IT under controlled
circumstances
> that are recorded for posterity.

And LPI can afford to do this ... how?
That's the problem.

If you want to talk development time and costs along with
marketing, you _fundamentally_ change why LPI is different.

> Eek, "Male Caucasian Seeking Employment" is my LAST cert,
> always, right after Inet+.

Being a consult, you quickly become a "cert whore."
I had *0* certifications before 2003.

I had always thought my BSE and 12 years experience were
enough.  They actually were, but HR and/or procurement
departments didn't see the little letters they liked.


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