Work experience as a recertification option [was Re: [lpi-discuss] Re: Linux Professional Institute changes Recertification Policy -- how does LPI "pay" for all your "wants"?]

Bryan J. Smith b.j.smith at ieee.org
Tue Dec 5 15:32:32 EST 2006


"G. Matthew Rice" <matt at starnix.com> wrote:
> I think that the $2k is a little steep for most parts of
> the world.

That was the US rate.

It would be pro-rated for the locale.  Figure X hours at whatever the
rate is for the locale.

Here in the US, I'd say $100/hour for one 20 hour week of
investigation time.  So if it's $1/hour in a third world country, it
would be $20.

You'd have to designate an official [set of] auditor(s in each
country (or at least each region) to do this.  But it might be a
great, additional avenue for both revenue as well as credential to
have.

> It also isn't in line with my experience getting licensed as a
> professional engineer here in Canada (fingers crossed, I just
> submitted my work experience record today; yeah, yeah, 10 years
> late but..).

Sorry, I forgot about you "socialist" countries.  ;-ppp
Seriously now, if you figure in the "total cost," it's much more.

> The costs for me were more along the lines of $160-ish
> (not totally certain but somewhere around there) for applying 
> nd $100 for a law and ethics test (the only things my university
> education missed, I guess ;)).

The initial submission pushes $1K here in the states.
But most state BoPEs are funded by those fees (as well as penalties).

> That said, some things are a little different.  I have to provide 3
> licensed engineers as references. They have to be familiar with my
> work experience already.  And they have to say 'yeah, give him the
> license.'.  So, that limits the amount of audit time/cost required.

That's similar to most of the state BoPEs in the US too.

All work experience (every single position) has to be signed off by
engineers, and you need 3 licensed PEs as references.

> Of course, this starts getting us into the 'professional licensing'
> realm which would mean that we need some form of 'complaint
> department' or ???

At least LPI is not using the title "engineeer."
In the Canada, it's basically illegal to do so.

In the US, the state BoPEs are flooded with complaints of CNEs and
MCSEs.  It's why the NSPE eventually sued Microsoft and Novell in
Connecticut, Mass and Texas.

They won in Texas, where _real_ Electrical/Computer/Software
Engineers were able to prove a CNE or MCSE is a "technician's"
certification, or "engineering technologist" (not an engineer) at
best.

But they lost in Connecticut and Mass where IT is more dominate, and
there's little semiconductor industry.


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